I much prefer a middle way approach rather than the nuclear option (i.e., the community starting their own "J2" conference). The problem as I see it though is the sheer size of Oracle OpenWorld makes it very difficult for JavaOne to co-exist with that event. I do accept the practical necessity to have them in close proximity. However, the use of adjacent hotels for the JavaOne 2010 sessions was a logistical nightmare and dismal failure this year. Since holding a separate JavaOne conference at a different time is a non-starter in discussions with Oracle, I propose here some slight modifications to the current organization of the combined events that I believe would significantly improve the situation.
Instead of relegating all the developer sessions to the hotels, the primary goal of this proposal is to move the developer sessions back to Moscone. The way I propose accomplishing this is by having the JavaOne developer sessions start one day earlier on Saturday and the OpenWorld sessions shift their start/end dates by one day. The old format was:
- User Group Sunday
- Oracle Open World/JavaOne on Monday-Thursday
- JavaOne on Saturday-Sunday
- User Group Monday
- Oracle OpenWorld on Tuesday-Friday
By the way, this would allow Oracle Develop and a new MySQL conference to also move back to Moscone for the weekend. There is plenty of room at Moscone to co-locate all three developer focused conferences. They could follow the same overlapping schedule as JavaOne. I truly believe this is a middle way approach that could work. My biggest logistical fear is that it is already too late to change the Moscone reservation for next year's event to include the additional days required to do this.
As an aside, a JavaOne pass could have the same benefits as the Discover Pass this year did for OpenWorld. That way, JavaOne attendees that choose to hang around could still network with the OpenWorld attendees later in the week.
Namasté, Van
Namasté, Van
Sounds reasonable.
ReplyDeleteThe challenge will be convincing the business folks at Oracle that it's healthy for java to have a life of its own.
Why not use Moscone West for JavaOne? We could use the same keynote hall as OOW if they want to keep the ground floor for exib.
ReplyDelete2 days for J1 sessions? that's not enough..
ReplyDeleteThe other idea is to move JavaOne to another city in the United States.
ReplyDeleteHow about Las Vegas, Nevada?
What about the east coast, New York?
JavaOne 2010 was my 4th JavaOne. I was initially concerned about having the sessions in the 3 hotels but I found it worked very well. As much as I liked being at the Moscone in years past, I did not find JavaOne to be a "logistical nightmare" or "dismal failure"...quite the opposite in fact. I had plenty of time to move from session to session and the Mason St tent was a nice central gathering place.
ReplyDeleteMy gripes with JavaOne 2010 are minor: the online scheduling app is horrible, and it appears that Oracle isn't so rigorous about proofreading presentations. Overall I thought the conference was excellent and I'd go again using the same format. And one thing's for sure...nobody parties like Oracle!
This was my 10th or so JavaOne and I found it very well organized (though much smaller in size). The first day there was a real lack of signs and a lot of us wandered around lost, but the next day this was solved and it was easy locating rooms the rest of the time. Also the first day there were wireless problems and the online scheduler was unresponsive multiple times. Those issues also resolved by day two.
ReplyDeleteThe Hilton was just a short (at least for me) walk to Moscone, and it was nice having the street tent for socialization (thanks to BlackBerry for satisfying my latte addiction all week). Overall, I thought the logistics of JavaOne and the combined social events were handled much better than the good old days - there was always plenty of food and drink, and it appeared no expense was spared in terms of comforts.
So for me Java sessions in the Hilton and Park 55 hotels was actually OK.
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